Tuesday, March 30, 2010

Gun Lies Resurface:Clinton & Mex Fat Cats persist in blaming U.S. for Cartel crime


Clinton arrived with a "High-level delegation" and the first thing out of her mouth was this bull$hit: "Yes, we accept our share of the responsibility," she told reporters, recognizing that "guns purchased in the United States ... are used to facilitate violence here in Mexico."...Meanwhile "President Calderon told CNN this weekend, "We seized 66,000 weapons in three years, half of them assault weapons. We made a sample one year and a half ago, above 80 percent of those weapons came from the United States."...
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Readers can check the archives listed at the right of this page from 2009 (April, May, July, & August) for news & comment refuting these blatant stinking dammed lies...

Bloviator Louis Klarevas (at HuffPo) says U.S. firearms dealers selling semi-automatics that fall in the hands of the Cartels should be shipped to Mexico for prosecution, a country that has only one gun store, which is run by the Military, and DeFacto has disarmed it's law-abiding populace, with no effect whatsoever on it's criminal populace (what next, ship Jews who send money to Israel to Saudi to be prosecuted for money laundering?). Some commenter's on this outrageous idea clean his clock with the facts. For example:
BenErza said:"I would point out that the weapons the cartels have been using in the high-profile shootings recently are not available on the U.S. civilian market. M16's, M4's, M203 grenade launchers, etc. are manufactured in the United States, but they are sold only to the military, government agencies, law enforcement agencies, and foreign governments. Actual selective-fire AK-47's, RPG's, etc. are similarly restricted and are neither manufactured or imported here, even for government use.
Possession of *any* automatic weapon manufactured after 1986 by anyone outside of military/government or their suppliers is an automatic 10-year Federal felony in the United States, under the Title 2 provisions of the National Firearms Act of 1934 as amended by the Hughes Amendment to the McClure-Volkmer Act of 1986.
I'm sure there is significant cross-border traffic in stolen/illegally purchased civilian handguns, and possibly even a few U.S.-legal non-automatic civilian rifles, but the cartels are most assuredly not buying their automatic weapons on the U.S. civilian market. More likely sources are the stockpiles of Central American Cold War proxies (for older weapons and Warsaw Pact hardware) and the Mexican government for new U.S. made military arms"...
HisXLNC reasoned:"No need to extradite criminals to Mexico. The Mexican government has plenty in it's own ranks.
If you really want to cut the flow of weapons from the US to Mexico, tell the US government to stop selling guns to the corrupt Mexican government whose police and soldiers defect to the cartels, taking their weapons with them"...
Tonyspdx opined:"It was proven that a small portion of the total guns seized by the Mexican government came from the US, because most guns seized are guns that can’t be purchased in the US. The vast majority come from boarders (sic) of Central America. These are the nations that are supplying automatic weapons to the drug cartels. These cartels have vast amounts of cash to buy all kinds of weapons that the average US citizen CAN'T buy in the States. The total corruption of the Mexican government and the inability of the law-abiding citizenry of Mexico to fight the drug cartels are escalating the problems. The law-abiding Mexican citizen doesn't have the rights to protect themselves and their families. You ask "Then why doesn't this happen in the US", because I have the right to self protection. The Mexican people do not"...
Dimensio pointed out:"Given the demonstrable and extensive corruption inherent in all branches of the Mexican government, suggesting that firearm retailers be extradited for alleged violations of Mexican law, even when said retailers were unaware of any criminal activity by their customers, is entirely unreasonable".
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Snake9 Says: Well said, Gents. Fortunately there are some realists out here using their minds in the face of the utopian fools looking at the world through totalitarian rose-colored glasses...

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